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Hi Guys

I know that from Moyles etc that Mago's are accepted to be shorter and a higher pitch (generally) than that of Yidaki, but do Deeper key mago's say those from manigreda area are longer and deeper and lower D's and C's key. what cultrural placing do they have if any in the local communities ie would the be used in ceromony or are they just made for the western market as we like the deep airoplane style drone?

and would the playing style be any different to that of say Mr Blan$£" or Mr Camer)(*&^ ie the Dita Mo dita dita mo style or would it be any other slower style?

[kdidj]

Stockie,

I suggest you look at the exhibition pages on the ididj website. This gives a breakdown of the various instrument types by region and includes historical references.

In the Western / Central Arnhem Land region they use instruments in many pitches for both ceremonial and recreational use.

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Yeah Ive had a look on there (probably man vission) but couldnt seem to find anything relating to the really deep ones D and C's im assuming that the playing style is still the same as the higher pitch magos but slower as in the B's and C key Yidaki im probably way off on this just cant seem to see the info regarding this specific. I think ive heared some tracks on either the moyles CD' s or some of theManikay web site tracks but cant remember specifics. Thanks for the info

acording to what im getting from the exibition site the deeper mago is predominantly central arnhem land could it be fair to say that they are a best of both worlds where to coin a food analagy east meets west due to migration of song men etcor am I way off

[ididjaustralia]

When talking about 'mago' instruments, we're talking about overtone-absent didjeridu accompaniment that is prevalent in Western Arnhem Land, the NW Northern Territory region, southern Arnhem Land etc. I seem to recall that the key of instruments used in ceremony is matched to the voice of the main songman. And good singing voices are generally high and shrill with a nasal quality to the voice. Instruments would accordingly be high as well. These days, however, didgeridoos are made not just for ceremony but for sale as well and the latter do not appear to be constrained by cultural specifications. Sometimes they can be good quality, and at the other extreme, terribly bad.

Guan

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I seem to recall that the key of instruments used in ceremony is matched to the voice of the main songman. And good singing voices are generally high and shrill with a nasal quality to the voice. Instruments would accordingly be high as well. These days, however, didgeridoos are made not just for ceremony but for sale as well and the latter do not appear to be constrained by cultural specifications. Sometimes they can be good quality, and at the other extreme, terribly bad.

Guan thats interesting about the stick matching the songmans voice never new that, I did noyice though on your exhibition page on Ididj for North Central Arnhem land that there was a pradominance of lower key sticks with overtone being used in the playing style but being on the border of western and eastern is there much of a cross over of playing types as I think it stated that central is not as rapid playing as NEAL so would it be more along the lines of Djalus style of slower playing for want of a better comparison.

are the instruments the same as well as I seem to remember seeing somewhere that there was a style of instruments that were basically a mixture of the 2 style (ithink someone termed them madaki yidago) ie long deeper and wider bore than a yidaki but longer than the general mago? This is where im confused to if they are from central.

[ididjaustralia]

A couple more points... the match between voice and instrument pitch for the WAL region is well documented by Moyle et. al. There's also stuff Darryl Digarrnga has said about how instrument pitch is related to particular songs... for lively songs with vigorous dancing, higher keys are preferred. More subdued songs utilise lower keys. I think some of that is mentioned in my YouTube clips.

In terms of pitch, D is about as low as I would recommend for a mago, any lower than that and it starts to resemble generic didgeridoos with little if any mago sound characteristics. Occasionally you might come across something lower than a D that is outstanding, but these are the exception rather than the rule. I prefer higher keyed mago myself: Fs, F#s, Gs and G#s. Something with a bit of grunt! That snarly howl sound is what I like

Guan

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Yeah Guan I agree about the grunt (just to let you know im not looking for a new stick at the mo as Im skint and I had approched Kyle and he would be my first port of call or indeed Christian) it just seems to me that there are a lot of low key sticks around and was curious as to there cultural role in that lower yidaki, Djalu and thunder and all of that side of things if there were any/similar with mago style sticks. for example I know of a couple of Cish Key bob burrells here in the UK Kyle has one and my mate Paul has the other I was wondering if these were comon place and if so how much or if they were the exception to the rule (which it seems they may be) I like the tone of lower keyu stick but like the punchines of the higher keys. they are all very very special.

and I really wanna meet that chick in the advert with her toung sticking out