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flyangler18
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| Distal end Jason. If they were that close to the proximal end you wouldn't be able to play it! |
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ididjaustralia
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh yeah, one more thing. Try playing it with the bell end covered Guan and see what results when the sound exits only the holes! |
That could be another cool experiment. What are you guessing Kyle, that the pitch will go up or down?
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kdidj
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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No worries dude. Makes me wonder if you could play those holes as mouthpieces though with the bell end covered...
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kdidj
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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I honestly have no idea what will result Guan although I'd expect that the resultant drone would be slightly higher. Your experiments will yield the truth!
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flyangler18
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Makes me wonder if you could play those holes as mouthpieces though with the bell end covered... |
I suspect you could. I wonder if this 'side blown stick' would affect harmonics and backpressure vis a vis the altered path of the standing wave? Perhaps Martin can chime in here.
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ididjaustralia
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martin
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:17 am Post subject: |
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ciao eveyone,
I had been pondering a little the role of the hole.
I imagine if you cover the distal end then you may try to blow across the side hole in the manner of a flute.
In this case the note that you make should be about an octave higher than the didge note.
Holding your hand across the distal end and blowing the side hole like a didge may give a lower note..
rather than higher, as the inverse conical shape tends to effectively lengthen the tube.
Playing the instrument in the standard way the note should be a little higher than what you would
get with the hole covered. The hole effectively makes the bell region a bit bigger, shortening the acoustic length of the
tube.
I would still love to hear it:))
M
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Peter Lister
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| ididjaustralia wrote: |
| kdidj wrote: |
| It's a very cool specimen and quite a piece for the collection I should think! |
Yes, indeed! I don't know why it was sent to me though, I didn't ask for it and was a bit taken aback when I unwrapped it this morning. Something like this should be kept by the family. Maybe I'm supposed to look after it. My guess is that because Yambal's granddaughter stayed here last year along with other kids from Ramo they would have reported back that this place was like a museum. |
I'm only guessing but yes, I think you're expected to look after it. Yambal was always impressing upon me how he is trying to maintain Liyagalawumirr identity as he believes that some things I witnessed when with him at ceremonies belonged to Liyagalawumirr yet were being used by other groups without permission (or more particularly, without his permission). I know, sounds like paranoia and typical inter-group rivalry about ownership of objects/myth/story etc, but I believe there is some truth in it and to that end he is always working away at making and storing objects (amongs other nowledge) as a record of clan ownership.
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Peter Lister
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| ididjaustralia wrote: |
Hey Bita,
Hmmm... interesting, I wonder if it is the same instrument you saw?
The yidaki has Dhapalany (that's itchy caterpillars for those who don't know) painted on it amongst other things. Hey, I'm not sure if I can use that word as one of David Gulpilil's sisters passed away very recently, not sure which one, but he has a sister by that name, Linda Balupalu's mother yes?
Anyway, there's also conch shells and black crow painted on the instrument, as well as what looks like catfish, no doubt connected to Badurru mythology.
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I reckon it's probably a different one - there were several. I should drag out my notes from 5 yrs back as I may have noted things I can't now recall.
I've never been privy to Balu's M's name so can't shed light there either (you'd know better than me anyway) - Ganalpuyngu ngani ? Certainly very close ties with Gulpi's family - heh, you remember you and I and all that mob together singing and playing yirdaki at that funeral, cheeky boy!
Yep, all typical Liyagalawumirr subject matter - the incisions and the way the holes are painted are the same as I've seen on their hollow log coffins. It's beautiful.
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warnerr
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: a special yirdaki |
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I agree with peter- it would appear you are seen as a caretaker of the clans history. What a beautiful gift.
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ididjaustralia
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Peter Lister wrote: |
| I've never been privy to Balu's M's name so can't shed light there either (you'd know better than me anyway) - Ganalpuyngu ngani ? Certainly very close ties with Gulpi's family - heh, you remember you and I and all that mob together singing and playing yirdaki at that funeral, cheeky boy! |
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Peter Lister
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Well, I'm sorry to hear about that - she was quite a renowned weaver wasn't she. Yes, of course they're dhuwa - Balu' being yirritja - so her father is yirritja and therefore her mother, dhuwa. How very basic and stupid of me......
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mahoran
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: |
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It would be interesting to hear David's thoughts on Remu...
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ididjaustralia
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| It would be interesting to hear David's thoughts on Remu... |
He joked that it was "malagatj" meaning secret-sacred, but I know for a fact that women have seen this instrument. But Dharrapuy calls this instrument his mother, so he's the right person to talk about it.
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