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WAL style- Ambrose Cameron E
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flyangler18



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:13 am    Post subject: WAL style- Ambrose Cameron E Reply with quote

Enjoy!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: WAL style- Ambrose Cameron E Reply with quote

Good stuff! I enjoyed this a lot and it is good to see mago mastery getting a hold out there. Keep it up Jason Very Happy

My only suggestion is to get more harmonic range in the first part of the phrasing. You don't have to play flat, and emphasising some of the higher harmonics would sound really nice.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks as always Guan Wink

This stick has a nice bassiness to it, which I think actually flattens the higher harmonics a bit.

BTW, this was recorded on a Zoom H-4 field recorder. Nice piece of equipment and one that I will be getting lots of use from.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jason,

Is there a website showing this Zoom field recorder? It sounds interesting. Is it tape-based or digital?

For the ultimate, check out the Nagra range which Alice Moyle, Sandra Le Brun Holmes et. al. used:

http://www.nagraaudio.com/

The current model which has proved to be popular in the field is the Nagra V, which as I understand it, has been used in Western Arnhem Land including Goulburn Island for field recordings by researchers recently. Take a look at:

http://www.nagraaudio.com/pro/index.php

Costly though with prices staring at AUD$9000.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyangler18 wrote:
This stick has a nice bassiness to it, which I think actually flattens the higher harmonics a bit.


That's probably it, but I can 'hear' your tongue moving flat I think. Try to minimise your oral cavity with the first syllable "dit", squeezing in your cheeks and expelling air from the oral cavity. Otherwise, everything sounds good to me Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is there a website showing this Zoom field recorder? It sounds interesting. Is it tape-based or digital?


Yep, all digital. Records to WAV 44.1/48 or MP3 variable up to 320, and stores files to SD cards.

Here's the site: http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/h4/index.php

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That's probably it, but I can 'hear' your tongue moving flat I think


I think you're right- need to get more precision behind the tongue.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good Jason. It must be expensive right?

When working in the field, I started out with a cheap cassette recorder in 1994, a Sony Walkman a year later, then several Minidisc models from then until the late 1990s. After that I switched to using a video camera for all recordings even if it was only for the audio. Because it was digital, it was much like using a DAT recorder. I found it too difficult juggling 4 different things at one time: recording with the DV video camera, taking photographs with my film camera, recording with my audio recorder, and all the while trying to write notes in my field workbook. I don't know how I did it then... I certainly wouldn't try it again.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It must be expensive right?


You would think- but I paid less than $300 US for recorder + 2GB SD card Smile

It's a powerful little recorder at a can't beat price, IMHO.

Anyway, don't want to hijack this thread with discussions about field recording....but I'm quite happy with this piece of equipment. I've been a MiniDisc user for years and decided it was time for an upgrade.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyangler18 wrote:
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It must be expensive right?


You would think- but I paid less than $300 US for recorder + 2GB SD card Smile

It's a powerful little recorder at a can't beat price, IMHO.

Anyway, don't want to hijack this thread with discussions about field recording....but I'm quite happy with this piece of equipment. I've been a MiniDisc user for years and decided it was time for an upgrade.


Thanks Jason, I went and bought one from a an Ozzie seller on evilbay, comes with a Australian waranty but cost $439 AU that's about $350 US, that is with 10% tax.
Sorry for the hijack
Let's start a new topic " How to record Mago/Yadaki" Confused Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there

I pay mine $ 269 us last week for those interessted
http://www.amazon.com/ZOOM-AUDIO-H4-Recorder-Player/dp/B000JFVYAQ/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-4742939-6864130?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1176990462&sr=1-1

Sorry for this litlle hijacking .Jason you are improving day by day ,bravo

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit more of a muck about! Had me a nice practice today outside and recorded 3 mago:

Ambrose Cameron E
Joe Watson(Latitj Naromi) F#
Russel Brian F#-G

Particularly startling is the different responsiveness between the two F#s.

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good Jason, keep it up! No doubt you got some pointers from Kyle in the UK!

Guan

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree - they sound good! The Russel Brian is quite a bit more compressed but it is fractionally higher than the Latitj stick. Try and revert to the standard PV more as it seems you're hitting the HPV on most occasions.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Try and revert to the standard PV more as it seems you're hitting the HPV on most occasions.


I'm working on it-- old habits die hard Wink

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, remind me PV and HPV ??? Confused
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